MEAT&RACISM

A womyn once told me the eating of MEAT is a racist act.when she first told me that many moons ago i did not get it now i do and can really understand why meat should be kept out of and(LHD in wimmin-only space)it goes along with the idea might is right and white,the idea that we must eat chickens because there are so many of them and if we dont eat they will run us out of here with there sheer numbers,what is the difference in that attitude and the attitude that humans of color are inferior and there numbers must be kept at low amount? or the attitude too many black babies in the society is dangerous? or nazism too many jewish people in the society must be eliminated? and on and on and on.To quote C.J.Adams"The hearty meat eating that characterize the diet of Americans and of the Western world is not only a symbol of male power, it is an index of racism.Racism and sexism together upheld meat as white man's food".Yes and immediately we can see the need to remove it from all (LHD in wimmin-only space) Can we do it? is it really possible? is it done once forever? do we have to constantly pay attention to this effort? o.k.so again we face the decision to be plant based in our diets,we make an effort to encourage wimmin to go for one plant based meal a day to assist in the de-toxing from an animal based diet and to make an effort to do this for at least one month,then increase it to two meals a day for a month and so forth and so on,doing it this way seems to make the de-toxing less pain-full,yes we do have to de-tox from an animal based diet and it is not always fun.when we first begin to practice using a plant based diet we thought we would die we did not,we had to then and do now remind ourselves like everything else becoming vegetarian is just that becoming and is always a process happening,again like sex and a bath once is never enough we must do it over and over and over,and in a(LHD in wimmin-only space) plant based foods help assure us that our economics are more likely to be equally used and shared by all of us,we will not allow any plate or bowl of food to be more valued than another,any womon to be more valued than another,and this help us to learn how to become not only vegetarians but non- discriminating in our distribution of our resources what-ever they may be,indeed this is a never-ending task one that we as lesbian wimmin know that we can execute,and we know this can be accomplished over a period of time with perseverance

meat or gingerbeer?

well well we have calmed downed a bit;u know just talking about meat in a (LHD-in wimmin-only space) got us all excited and we are only talking about it thanks to the power of gingerbeer all seems to be calm again,so here we go again the use of meat in this space must be eliminated does that mean the use of all animal products or just the animal? it is possible to have this space and use animal products ? are eggs milk cheese acceptable and if so why and if not why not? well one womon said u don't have to kill a chicken to eat her egg another womon said the egg is the chicken and u are killing chickens when u eat eggs u are killing the future chickens of the world and another womon said if we don't eat chickens just imagine how many would b in the world we would be overrun by chickens and chicken shit, wow this is a lot to ingest.well another womon asked what about cheese we don't kill the cow goat or any other milk giving animal when we take and or drink the milk,she also said mother humans give their young their milk and it does not kill them(the mothers that is).so this brings up something else are we as grown up humans in need of animal milk who else drink animal milk other than humans? I think cats do i don't know about dogs,do cows drink milk do goats emu do other milk making animals drink milk,and what about cheese,what about it? are there any societies that do not eat cheese,we know that there are the vegans,fruitarians,rawists,airians, who leave cheese alone and why do they? eating cheese does not kill the animal and it is an animal product. one womon said what the hell do u think we should eat if we don't eat the animals? yes we can eat the veggies along with the animals isn't that what vegetable and animal is here for?We humans are the most intelligent and progressive and that is what the lower group is here for to aid and assist in our existence.now we want u to know that all of this conversation is talking place in a(LHD-wimmin-only space) so u see it (MEAT)is here isn't it? does not talking about something make it real ?make it physical?make it visible?again we asked can we eliminate the 3M's can we really eliminate them and how do we do it?wow.do we really need to drink animal milk since calcium we can get from other sources,we once heard that the only group as adults that drink milk are humans,cats will drink some milk when they are adults but we have be told not to feed it to them so now where do we go?

gingerbeer?

ginger beer?now what does that have to do with a (LHD in wimmin-only space)?the levitating powers of ginger has been known to wimmin since the begining of ginger,easy to make fun to drink and also fairly easy to grow ginger is great,also cools us down as we heat up in our discussions and decisions to remove meat from this space.can we talk about foods we will replace in our environs,have u ever had a total vegetable base meal?what would it be? how would it taste?,well sure u have if u have ever eaten a vegetable salad? u know leafy greens , radishes ,carrots, tomatoes,chokes,green beans, now that's a helluva vegetable meal,so o.k. u need more than that for a full meal, how bout a bowl of brown rice with tamari and beans,lets make that black beans for now with pan fried tofu and sauteed zucchini,and a bowl of miso soup with arugula, then finish it off with a banana fruit creame,everything here is vegetable based.o,u don't like tofu,perhaps twas the way it was prepared,there are so many ways to fix tofu and really get the fine taste of it to appeal to your particular palate,.but o.k. lets go for another vegetable base meal,lunch if u find yourself wanting to have a vegetable based lunch but again u don't want or cant take tofu yet now hear this;simple enough and u can prepare this very easy yourself.take one can of organically grown beans your choice,drain and place in blender or food processor add fresh or dried oregano and basil to your taste,fresh ground pepper,and blend til it become pate or paste like,use on wholesome bread (we like 7grains) as spread with sliced tomatoes,lettuce,onion,is this good or what? u can use any kind of beans u want. another one can u do nuts? if so use whatever nuts u like we prefer them raw,here we go; in blender or food processor place the amount of and kind of nuts u like add a sheet of nori(seaweed of your choice we like nori wakeme and hijiki however use whatever u like or none).blend till pate or paste like if too thick add a small amount of water,use on wholesome bread of your choice with tomatoes,peppers,and lettuce go for it.o.k. u love fried foods,lets go for some, remember should u choose to fry food allow the oil to become hot hot so that when u place your food in the oil it begins to cook and not lay in the oil and become soggy use a superior oil,we like canola,should u want olive oil and that's good,look for olive oil that is cold pressed (what does that mean?)when the oil is being extracted from the fruit the presses used are not as hot as they can be and are considered to be cold it is usually a first pressing.the advantage of using this kind of cold press oil is that u will get as close to receiving the nutrition from the fruit or vegetable being pressed other than eating the fruit or vegetable in its original state .now remember should u use olive oil to fry add some canola oil to prevent it from burning olive oil burns very easy,.o.k. so what do we fry?lets start off with what we call crimps(that's cauliflower) separate the buds of cauliflower into fairly medium size pieces use medium because the smaller the buds the more difficult to fry successfully, rinse,dry with cloth or paper(stay green use a clean cloth),in a bag u can use plastic if u want or a paperbag(stay green use a bowl),place about a tablespoon of flour(the flour can be rice wheat potato corn your choice,) in bowl with a dash of sea salt,fresh ground pepper,dried turmeric,basil,oregano,paprika, a dash of (starch,this can be mung bean, corn,tapioca,rice) this will help the seasoned flour stick to the veggies without the use of eggs,now make sure the oil is good and hot to test shake just a tad of your flour mixture in pan if it sizzles right away the oil is ready to receive the veggie,place cauliflower in flour mixture,remove and place piece by piece in hot oil, remember do not (crowd)the pan with the veggies they need a lotta room to cook correctly,when golden brown remove from pan place on paper or(stay green) on fabric towel to drain,serve with goddess dressing,or avocado dressing or dressings of your choice with a big bowl of steamed greenbeans and if u need a starch how about a big bowl of your choice of pasta, we like it with basmati rice.well now what we have discovered is that by talking about good vegetable based foods some of the annoyance and anger that surfaces when the demise of meat occurs dissipates. so is it on the back burner?probably not we will seemingly always have to deal with the 3M"s and we haven't gotten to the third M of the 3M's yet.this is sort of like sex and baths u know one wont do it forever,we bathe and we get dirty again, we have sex once and we want it again o well that's deep.now why do we call this crimps? to help us deal with eating ocean animals,shrimps being one,o but i need the omega 3 that i can only get from eating ocean animals, not so ever heard of flax oil it will give u what u need in this area and not one shrimp has to die in the name of human nutrition o my well is it the flesh of the shrimp that really attracts me ? now that i have found out about other ways to get omega3 why do i still need the flesh of the shrimp?on no do i have to leave sea/ocean animals alone?not eat them? not kill them?but how can i get the nutrients i need that only come from the ocean if i don't eat the animals? ever hear of sea vegetables? so here is to crimps,is this just a head trip?

would it be really that

ok here we go again;on one of the 3M's meat in an effort to remain calm and talk about the consumption of animals as food,cultural,personal,religious and economic statements always rise sometimes making it seem impossible to get anywhere as far as an understanding of why meat cannot be present in a (LHD-wimmin-only space) now is the discussion of not having it in this space as food,mean we have it in this space? can we really get to talk about it as something we have to get rid of, and not have it?does talking about it make it here? we know meat as with the other of the 3M's money divides us wimmin,does talking about them make them here or (visible)?what causes us to want to defend the practice of eating other animals?what causes us to want to defend the use of other animals as table decoration called food and then cause us to defend the use of their bodies as food by praying over it and then asking a "higher power" to bless us for doing it ? To tell me we do this because it is a cultural,personal,religious,economic, thing to me does not address itself to what we really are doing,and that is asking others to kill for us package the spoils,refrigerate the spoils,present the spoils as plumped up pieces of animal parts under ultra lights, of a cold case and call it food and in this case meat.i know u know and i do think we all know this, perhaps to admit to knowing brings on some sort of discomfort, however we do know.one of the things i have noticed is the possibility of a lot of anger surfacing once a discussion starts on the practice of eliminating the 3M's from a (LHD-wimmin-only space),well it starts off like this, listen this is my meat and my money and i have a right to it i worked hard to get it and i will work doubled hard to keep it,now one could get crazed here,however tis apparent that the crazies is already in play now how do we get past this? we have to we must. o.k. lets start here, have a glass of cold homemade ginger beer,tis cooling and will help us to levitate,now how about a wonderful leafy green salad?(no?) tis good for the bod and elimanation, alright what about a hot baked sweet potatoe,with olive oil and parsley and basil,still no? o.k. how about this u still have the need to hold to the eating of a piece of animal flesh? u know tis here that a certain madness takes over and i have to remind myself that i too at one time could not see the connection between my aid in the continuation of murder and meat .o.k. you can see at this place many times we say lets not talk about this .

uh the 3M's meat again

well in a (LHD in wimmin-only space)here is what can be real ,really eradicate meat of all kinds be that of cow beef goat pork pig lamb sheep chicken poultry emu snake alligator birds quails Guinea mosquitoes spiders snails escargot grubs worms and so forth and so forth and so forth ok? now does that mean eggs of all kinds cheese(does that look right?) well is that a bit far fetched what is an ova-lacto vegetarian? well this one womon said to me that is someone who is still attached to the idea that animal protein is necessary in the quote human condition well is it really or is it simply a matter of having developed a taste for animal protein and feeling less guilty about eating animal since i dont see an animal just an egg feels less guilty.well anyway do u notice the word that is often used ovo-lacto now think about that word ovo is not real the word refers to egg ova not ovo wild just think about it just think and as gertrude said when this u see remember me. can anything really be eradicated? i think not i think this is probably simply a state of mind bye

meat sex politics

well how prey tell do we get to this one is it that meat is sex?meat is politics? meat is food?in her book The Sexual Politics Of Meat A Feminist-Vegetarian Critical Theory,Carol J.Adams says fairy tales initiate us at an early age into the dynamics of eating and sex roles.The king in his countinghouse ate four-and-twenty blackbirds in a pie(originally four-and-twenty-naughty boys.) While the queen ate bread and honey. Cannibalism in fairy tales is generally a male(man's) activity, as Jack,after climbing his beanstalk,quickly learned.Folktales of all nations depict giants as male (men) and "fond of eating human flesh".Witches warped or monstrous women in the eyes of a patriarchal world-become the token female (women)cannibals. Now i think i am beginning to see the connection between the attempt to destroy the use of meat in a (LHD in wimmin-only space). u know when i think about it the referring to myself and other wimmin as meat is not i said is not a womon's thang,nor is the referring to my genitals as or other wimmin as meat is not i said is not a womon's thang it seems that again i and other wimmin i know are being required to take on the task of eating my meat and now someone else's meat. do u know in some parts of the world the implying of eating your meat or someone else's is a signal of unsavory sexual behaviour?

#2of the 3M's yes

is it really the great divide or is it in the same divide league as the other M's

#2of the 3M's MEAT

meat meat meat; well now how does the use of or the non use of meat fit into a (LHD-IN WIMMIN-ONLY SPACE) first lets make this space vegetarian in food served,now what does that mean no animal products some animal products ,how does the use or non use show itself as a divide in this space or any space(no let us stay with this space not any space)did u know that in some places in the world what u eat will cost u more if its vegetative in its origin,an example,tofu will almost never be on sale at a grocery store,if its created from organic soy it will cost u more because the gmo-ing of the beans did not happened breads made from organic grains or seeds and without sugar will cost u more,than other breads,organically grown vegetables almost always will cost more at the stores although no pesti,insecti,or herbicides were used in the growing,stores make a mint off of non-animal products although it will take 3 football fields to grow approximately 12 animal burgers, the growing of non-toxic foods is condoned by the government through the institutes known as the fda usda yes now how does that act as a divide well let us start with who can afford and who cannot afford what.most often based on what one makes in money will determine quote HOW HIGH OFF THE HOG one will eat in relation to the animal being eaten ,example u got good money and a lot of it to spend on animal parts u want and need steaks chops no nuggets(they signify not to highly regarded body parts that u may not want to be seen eating u know like guzzles,armpits,anuses ,that sort of stuff,now if u have not a lotta money but u want to be viewed as one who does when making your buys u can lean toward the organs and the more exciting they sound the better u know lets say like hearts livers brains pancreas but certainly not all inners u know like intestines bladders that is to be left for those who have little money,these folks must go for the wings tails toes feet legs ears breasts,now if u are one of those who have little money but u still need the wings of the dove (chicken quails ducks birds) if u search out some of the other stores u may find other desirable parts for the taking such as the eyes noses and lips,now how is that for a economic divide and who in a patriarchal society makes most of the money from what i have been told taint wimmin/lesbians so should we call that a class economic divide or are the both the same with a different name, so if u dont have animals as food in a(LHD WIMMIN-ONLY SPACE) will there still be a divide that exist based on money and food,now to pretend that vegetables will not be used as a divide is not to be connected here,for example did u know that there are some places in this world that depending on what vegetables and how they are prepared will be used by some to make a determination of class and economy,example go to the grocery store or restaurant buy boiled potatoes,mashed potatoes,potatoes Au gratin potato quiche how much do u pay where will u find the particular style potatoes u want and who will be next to u buying the same thing,o.k. u say will yeah u get cheese in some butter in some and some are just plain,o.k. lets go with the plain potatoes if they are #l's u pay one thing if they are herbi pesti or insecticided u pay another thing if they have been grown organically the are another and trust me this is only the beginning

#2of the 3M's MEAT

so to begin; ideally ( LHD in wimmin-only space)has dealt with meat long before it has become a dividing factor among dinning and non-dinning wimmin,so how does that happen or does it? well let me start with this a womon came one day to talk about the consumption of flesh, now did she mean the eating of it or the consumption of it arent the two the same well she clearly told me she meant the eating of it,so i asked if it was o.k. for me to eat meat if i did not consume flesh?on her next visit she explained to me that eating meat was really cruel and inhumane ,i asked how so, here is what she said,the eating of meat showed that i had no seemingly aware connections to the working of the universe and my place in it,i made every effort to tell and show her that i had not created the eating of meat nor had i created it and anyways what the hell is it? here is what she said;meat is some humans way of being o.k. with the maiming and killing of animals particularly female ones and passing that o.k.ness on to coverted mysognyous acceptable human behaviour that appears to be natural.well with that i go bye now